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		<title>Comment on Which Code Should Be Billed for Spinal Decompression? by KenEricksonDC</title>
		<link>http://spinaldecompression-orangecounty.com/2009/09/16/which-code-should-be-billed-for-spinal-decompression/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KenEricksonDC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a nutshell, Spinal Decompression is not a covered service under most insurance plans. However, Physical Therapy usually is covered. Therefore, our Complete Spinal Rehabilitation Program combines Spinal Decompression and Physical Therapy. Since we &#039;shift&#039; most of the cost of the program toward the Physical Therapy services, the out-of-pocket cost will often be FAR less than it would be at an office that does not accept any form of insurance coverage for Spinal Decompression.

Not only is the cost of the program less, but our treatment effectiveness has improved considerably since we added Physical Therapy to our program. While Spinal Decompression treats the damaged disc and the source of the pain, Physical Therapy focuses on the mechanical and postural issues that caused the disc injury in the first place. By treating the cause the patient responds better, faster and is less likely to experience a future relapse!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a nutshell, Spinal Decompression is not a covered service under most insurance plans. However, Physical Therapy usually is covered. Therefore, our Complete Spinal Rehabilitation Program combines Spinal Decompression and Physical Therapy. Since we &#8216;shift&#8217; most of the cost of the program toward the Physical Therapy services, the out-of-pocket cost will often be FAR less than it would be at an office that does not accept any form of insurance coverage for Spinal Decompression.</p>
<p>Not only is the cost of the program less, but our treatment effectiveness has improved considerably since we added Physical Therapy to our program. While Spinal Decompression treats the damaged disc and the source of the pain, Physical Therapy focuses on the mechanical and postural issues that caused the disc injury in the first place. By treating the cause the patient responds better, faster and is less likely to experience a future relapse!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Which Code Should Be Billed for Spinal Decompression? by Steve</title>
		<link>http://spinaldecompression-orangecounty.com/2009/09/16/which-code-should-be-billed-for-spinal-decompression/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So help me to understand this more clearly: if I go  to a doctor&#039;s office and I am looking for care for my back and the doctor uses other therapies for my back along with decompression my insurance can be billed and may pay for other therapies because they are related to rehabilitation for my back?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So help me to understand this more clearly: if I go  to a doctor&#8217;s office and I am looking for care for my back and the doctor uses other therapies for my back along with decompression my insurance can be billed and may pay for other therapies because they are related to rehabilitation for my back?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Which Code Should Be Billed for Spinal Decompression? by black hattitude</title>
		<link>http://spinaldecompression-orangecounty.com/2009/09/16/which-code-should-be-billed-for-spinal-decompression/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[black hattitude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,


thanks for the great quality of your blog, every  time i come here, i&#039;m amazed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>thanks for the great quality of your blog, every  time i come here, i&#8217;m amazed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Which Code Should Be Billed for Spinal Decompression? by KenEricksonDC</title>
		<link>http://spinaldecompression-orangecounty.com/2009/09/16/which-code-should-be-billed-for-spinal-decompression/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KenEricksonDC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I answered your question more thoroughly in a separate post. I actually learned a few things myself when I was doing the research for your answer! One thing I do know - I don&#039;t ever want to get back surgery if I can avoid it!

Here&#039;s the link to the article on this Orange County Spinal Decompression Blog:

http://spinaldecompression-orangecounty.com/2009/10/17/back-surgery-how-many-back-surgeries-will-i-need/

I hope this answers your question. Please feel free to comment again if it does not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I answered your question more thoroughly in a separate post. I actually learned a few things myself when I was doing the research for your answer! One thing I do know &#8211; I don&#8217;t ever want to get back surgery if I can avoid it!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link to the article on this Orange County Spinal Decompression Blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://spinaldecompression-orangecounty.com/2009/10/17/back-surgery-how-many-back-surgeries-will-i-need/" rel="nofollow">http://spinaldecompression-orangecounty.com/2009/10/17/back-surgery-how-many-back-surgeries-will-i-need/</a></p>
<p>I hope this answers your question. Please feel free to comment again if it does not.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Disc Bulge: Can it Get Better Without Surgery? by Savannah</title>
		<link>http://spinaldecompression-orangecounty.com/2009/07/20/disc-bulge-can-it-get-better-without-surgery/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Savannah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome blog!

I thought about starting my own blog too but I&#039;m just too lazy so, I guess I&#039;ll just have to keep checking yours out.
LOL,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome blog!</p>
<p>I thought about starting my own blog too but I&#8217;m just too lazy so, I guess I&#8217;ll just have to keep checking yours out.<br />
LOL,</p>
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		<title>Comment on Which Code Should Be Billed for Spinal Decompression? by KenEricksonDC</title>
		<link>http://spinaldecompression-orangecounty.com/2009/09/16/which-code-should-be-billed-for-spinal-decompression/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KenEricksonDC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 01:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1) Your point about the S9090 vs. 97012 billing codes is correct. Most insurance companies will not pay for this code at all. When they do it is usually just a few dollars per treatment. That is why our office has revolutionized the delivery of Spinal Decompression to our patients by &quot;taking the Spinal Decompression out of Spinal Decompression&quot;! In other words, performing other ancillary services that are covered by insurance to dramatically reduce the cost of the total program.

2) Regarding: &quot;How many back surgeries will I need?&quot; This is a GREAT question. I have made a note to write and entire post around this question so be sure to look for it. It has probably been about a year since I thoroughly researched this topic so I am drawing this entirely from memory, but here goes. The short answer is that it is VERY common for patients to &#039;repeat&#039; a spinal surgery about every 7-10 years. This may not be a problem for an 80 year-old patient, but for someone in their 30&#039;s, 40&#039;s, 50&#039;s, etc. this can be a rather shocking statistic. I will find the actual published reference and post it in a separate post.

The &quot;surgery every 7-10 years&quot; statistic has been firmly established for lumbar spinal fusion surgeries. It was once believed that this did not apply to other so-called &#039;less invasive&#039; surgeries like laminectomies, discectomies, microdiscectomies and the like. However, recent evidence (about a year back, anyway, like I said before) has pointed to all lumbar spinal surgery patients requiring some form of aggressive intervention (usually surgery) for the spinal discs located either above or below the surgically treated disc level.

In our office we commonly see patients seeking Spinal Decompression years after having received &#039;successful&#039; spinal surgery. The patients often report good results from the surgery and usually speak rather highly about their surgeon, but when I tell them that it is VERY common for patients to require &#039;repeat&#039; surgeries they are often troubled that their surgeon didn&#039;t tell them that. I have personally seen discs degenerate to the point of requiring Spinal Decompression within 3 years of having back surgery. I can definitely tell you that the 7-10 year number holds up very well in the patients that we have seen over the years.

On a side note, I would say that nearly half the patients that I have seen that have received spinal surgery tell me that they were operated on &quot;by the best surgeon in all of Southern California&quot;. I find this very hard to believe considering that it is rare that any of those patients received surgery from the same doc! I like to think that I am the &quot;Best Spinal Decompression Doctor in All of Southern California&quot; and our results certainly put us in the running, but I know several docs in SoCal that are doing fantastic work getting people better without surgery. Word to the wise - the next time someone tells you they are the best at what they do, it is highly likely that they are not. The best docs don&#039;t need to toot their own horns - their patients, their staff, other doctors and their visible results will toot the horn for them. Food for thought.

I hope this answers your question.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Your point about the S9090 vs. 97012 billing codes is correct. Most insurance companies will not pay for this code at all. When they do it is usually just a few dollars per treatment. That is why our office has revolutionized the delivery of Spinal Decompression to our patients by &#8220;taking the Spinal Decompression out of Spinal Decompression&#8221;! In other words, performing other ancillary services that are covered by insurance to dramatically reduce the cost of the total program.</p>
<p>2) Regarding: &#8220;How many back surgeries will I need?&#8221; This is a GREAT question. I have made a note to write and entire post around this question so be sure to look for it. It has probably been about a year since I thoroughly researched this topic so I am drawing this entirely from memory, but here goes. The short answer is that it is VERY common for patients to &#8216;repeat&#8217; a spinal surgery about every 7-10 years. This may not be a problem for an 80 year-old patient, but for someone in their 30&#8242;s, 40&#8242;s, 50&#8242;s, etc. this can be a rather shocking statistic. I will find the actual published reference and post it in a separate post.</p>
<p>The &#8220;surgery every 7-10 years&#8221; statistic has been firmly established for lumbar spinal fusion surgeries. It was once believed that this did not apply to other so-called &#8216;less invasive&#8217; surgeries like laminectomies, discectomies, microdiscectomies and the like. However, recent evidence (about a year back, anyway, like I said before) has pointed to all lumbar spinal surgery patients requiring some form of aggressive intervention (usually surgery) for the spinal discs located either above or below the surgically treated disc level.</p>
<p>In our office we commonly see patients seeking Spinal Decompression years after having received &#8216;successful&#8217; spinal surgery. The patients often report good results from the surgery and usually speak rather highly about their surgeon, but when I tell them that it is VERY common for patients to require &#8216;repeat&#8217; surgeries they are often troubled that their surgeon didn&#8217;t tell them that. I have personally seen discs degenerate to the point of requiring Spinal Decompression within 3 years of having back surgery. I can definitely tell you that the 7-10 year number holds up very well in the patients that we have seen over the years.</p>
<p>On a side note, I would say that nearly half the patients that I have seen that have received spinal surgery tell me that they were operated on &#8220;by the best surgeon in all of Southern California&#8221;. I find this very hard to believe considering that it is rare that any of those patients received surgery from the same doc! I like to think that I am the &#8220;Best Spinal Decompression Doctor in All of Southern California&#8221; and our results certainly put us in the running, but I know several docs in SoCal that are doing fantastic work getting people better without surgery. Word to the wise &#8211; the next time someone tells you they are the best at what they do, it is highly likely that they are not. The best docs don&#8217;t need to toot their own horns &#8211; their patients, their staff, other doctors and their visible results will toot the horn for them. Food for thought.</p>
<p>I hope this answers your question.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Which Code Should Be Billed for Spinal Decompression? by Marguerite</title>
		<link>http://spinaldecompression-orangecounty.com/2009/09/16/which-code-should-be-billed-for-spinal-decompression/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marguerite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spinal Decompresion therapy is not paid by any insurance companies is the billing code is S9090.
But I wonder how the code of 97012 can be used.
I am going through this right now, and it is not reimburseable with even Blue Cross.  I figure it this way, it probably never will.  Basically the insurance companies will pay for all the bak surgeries and stuff but that won&#039;t pay for something can prevent back surgery.  Yes I been told I might consider back surgery for degentative disc disease, but my question is this?  How many am I going to need, yes how many, as i have seen too many failed back surgeries, too many redo&#039;s repeats and too many people seeking disability because of back problems, and they were told it was all in their head and they could work.  
So this is why, i considered decompression spinal theapy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spinal Decompresion therapy is not paid by any insurance companies is the billing code is S9090.<br />
But I wonder how the code of 97012 can be used.<br />
I am going through this right now, and it is not reimburseable with even Blue Cross.  I figure it this way, it probably never will.  Basically the insurance companies will pay for all the bak surgeries and stuff but that won&#8217;t pay for something can prevent back surgery.  Yes I been told I might consider back surgery for degentative disc disease, but my question is this?  How many am I going to need, yes how many, as i have seen too many failed back surgeries, too many redo&#8217;s repeats and too many people seeking disability because of back problems, and they were told it was all in their head and they could work.<br />
So this is why, i considered decompression spinal theapy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Which Code Should Be Billed for Spinal Decompression? by JimmyBean</title>
		<link>http://spinaldecompression-orangecounty.com/2009/09/16/which-code-should-be-billed-for-spinal-decompression/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JimmyBean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know If I said it already but ...Great site...keep up the good work. :) I read a lot of blogs on a daily basis and for the most part, people lack substance but, I just wanted to make a quick comment to say I&#039;m glad I found your blog.  Thanks, :)

A definite great read..Jim Bean]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know If I said it already but &#8230;Great site&#8230;keep up the good work. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I read a lot of blogs on a daily basis and for the most part, people lack substance but, I just wanted to make a quick comment to say I&#8217;m glad I found your blog.  Thanks, <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>A definite great read..Jim Bean</p>
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		<title>Comment on Announcement: Orange County Spinal Decompression Rated &#8216;Top Blog&#8217; by Kelli Garner</title>
		<link>http://spinaldecompression-orangecounty.com/2009/09/22/announcement-orange-county-spinal-decompression-rated-top-blog/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelli Garner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really nice posts.  I will be checking back here regularly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really nice posts.  I will be checking back here regularly.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Don&#8217;t All Spinal Decompression Offices Accept Insurance? by Solar Panel</title>
		<link>http://spinaldecompression-orangecounty.com/2009/09/07/why-dont-all-spinal-decompression-offices-accept-insurance/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Solar Panel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, interesting read. I just found your blog and I&#039;m already a fan. =D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, interesting read. I just found your blog and I&#8217;m already a fan. =D</p>
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